Bishop John Shelby Spong

Theism is Dead

  • "1. Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. God can no longer be understood with credibility as a Being, supernatural in power, dwelling above the sky and prepared to invade human history periodically to enforce the divine will. So, most theological God-talk today is meaningless unless we find a new way to speak of God.
  • "2. Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So, the Christology of the ages is bankrupt."
  • (pp. 453-454, 'Here I Stand,' John Shelby Spong, Twelve Theses,A Bishop Speaks to Believers in Exile,A Call for a New Reformation.)

Atheism

Is Bishop Spong an atheist? He asserts above that "Theism...is dead." The dictionary suggests that he is. The dictionary defines a 'theist' like so:

"theist, the-ist, n. One who believes in the existence of a God." (Webster's International, 1965)

The dictionary marks out 'theism' in contrast to 'atheism':

"theism, the-izm, n. ...The belief or acknowledgement of the existence of a God, as opposed to atheism." (Webster's International, 1965)

Bishop Spong however is applying the word in a certain private sense, as a theory concerning God's nature. He borrows this definition from theologian Paul Tillich, who still retained an awareness of the common usage:

"Theism can mean the unspecified affirmation of God. Theism in this sense does not say what it means if it uses the name of God...Theism can have another meaning, quite contrary to the first one: it can be the name of what we have called the divine-human encounter. In this case it points to those elements in the Jewish-Christian tradition which emphasize the person-to-person relationship with God....Theism has a third meaning, a strictly theological one...it tries to establish a doctrine of God which transforms the person-to-person encounter with God into a doctrine about two persons who may or may not meet but who have a reality independent of each other." (Paul Tillich, The Courage to Be, pp. 183-184)

Tillich aspired to 'transcend' theism by a faith so "absolute" that both believer and object of belief precipitate out, leaving: "Theism in all its forms is transcended in the experience we have called absolute faith. It is the accepting of the acceptance without somebody or something that accepts." (Paul Tillich, The Courage to Be, p. 185).

Bishop Spong employs 'theistic' as a qualifier of 'God' as well as of 'belief.' When he says "the theistic deity," readers aware that 'theos' in Greek means 'God' hear him stuttering: 'the godly god.' However he has in mind Tillich's second definition of theism, or rather the Bible facts upon which the second definition is premised, namely the many instances in scripture of face-to-face encounters between God and His people. Promises of God's love: "...for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee" (Hebrews 13:5), excite Bishop Spong's personal outrage. Perhaps this author's life experience has not confirmed the Bible's testimony of God's "loving-kindness." He understands by the "theistic" God the thinking and feeling God who loves, and is loved by, His children, Whom we encounter as One not altogether foreign, though infinitely above us. It is this God he rejects.

Tillich's disaffection with the formula 'God is a person' stemmed in part, ironically enough, from his awareness that this modern catch-phrase is not what Trinitarians say:

"Personality is the most emphasized ideal of modern religious and secular humanism. Personality is considered as the most necessary symbol for God...In classical theology, 'person' was used only for the three principles in the divine life, not for God himself; and 'personality' was not used at all in this connection...When God became a person, man's personality was driven into neurotic disintegration." (Paul Tillich, The Protestant Era, pp. 62-63).

By contrast, Bishop Spong's objections arise not from theology but from moral indignation at the pain and suffering permitted in our world.

  • "Prayer consequently perpetuates the primary illusion of theism--namely, that we are not alone..."
  • (p. 191, 'A New Christianity for a New World,' John Shelby Spong.)

Bishop Spong angrily rejects 'theism' in Tillich's second definition. Is he however a theist by Tillich's first definition, which remains the people's definition? Is he a 'theist,' or is it more appropriate first to invoke the Greek language's particle of negation? Does he believe there is a God who [or which] is a real entity?

He quotes with approval a church-goer who said, "When we speak of God as a person, what we're really doing is personalizing the values by which we live as a community. To live together as a family demands a combination of love, structure, and discipline. The values that make community possible are invested with Godlike dimensions." (John Shelby Spong, A New Christianity for a New World, p. 66). Readers who notice that Bishop Spong disbelieves all that the church believes may wonder why he continues to hang around churches. The answer is offered by the old song, 'I Love the Feeling that I Get When I Get Together with God's Wonderful People.' Bishop Spong genuinely enjoys church fellowship. Who can blame him; as a rule folks who hang out at church behave better, not displaying the slovenly rudeness of the pool hall. Few, however, would venture to say, 'The Feeling that I Get When I Get Together with God's Wonderful People is God:'

"In that process of coming to know that which we name as divine, the God who is love is slowly transformed into the love that is God. Let me repeat that...We breathe love in, and we breathe love out. It is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent. It is never exhausted, always expanding. When I try to describe this reality, words fail me; so I simply utter the name God. That name, however, is no longer for me the name of a being..." (John Shelby Spong, A New Christianity for a New World, p. 71).

Admittedly Bishop Spong has wandered off the Christian reservation; is he yet however a theist? It depends on whether "the values that make community possible" are real entities, or only epiphenomena of human psychology. Certainly Plato thought values like 'justice' are real entities. What does Bishop Spong think? He does not say, but perhaps his silence can be illumined by his long-standing tendency to offer arguments in the format of the argumentum ad populum. Time and again in Bishop Spong's writings, where the reader expects to find an argument setting forth why the reader should agree with Bishop Spong's view, one finds instead the assertion that no educated, modern person can believe in...whatever Bishop Spong does not believe in. Simultaneously, Bishop Spong is aware that very many people do not agree with him. The careful reader discovers that the multitude who do not agree with him are less well-educated, less vibrant, nor as good-looking as those who share his views. Of course the argumentum ad populum is fallacious, whether the multitude called to witness is vibrant or sleepy, sweet-smelling or foul. One expects that the "young, attractive, urbane, upwardly mobile" (ibid., p. 65) crowd whose views count would consider 'values' as epiphenomena: certain things are valued because human beings happen to value them. If that is Bishop Spong's view also, he is an atheist.



Twelve Theses

A Bishop Speaks to Believers in Exile
A Call for a New Reformation

  • "1. Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. God can no longer be understood with credibility as a Being, supernatural in power, dwelling above the sky and prepared to invade human history periodically to enforce the divine will. So, most theological God-talk today is meaningless unless we find a new way to speak of God.
  • "2. Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So, the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.
  • "3. The biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.
  • "4. The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes the divinity of Christ, as traditionally understood, impossible.
  • "5. The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.
  • "6. The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God that must be dismissed.
  • "7. Resurrection is an action of God, who raised Jesus into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.
  • "8. The story of the ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post­Copernican space age.
  • "9. There is no external, objective, revealed standard writ in Scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.
  • "10. Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.
  • "11. The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behavior-control mentality of reward and punishment. The church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behavior.
  • "12. All human beings bear God’s image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one’s being, whether based on race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either rejection or discrimination."
  • (pp. 453-454, 'Here I Stand,' John Shelby Spong.)



Bishop Robinson

The church which made this author bishop of Newark, N.J., continues on its downward spiral. While no race of angels has made itself available for service as bishops, God's word does instruct believers to elect candidates of good character:

"A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil." (1 Timothy 3:2-7).

(The New Testament does not clearly differentiate 'bishops' from 'ministers,' though the two offices would diverge in later history, bishops becoming the top rank of an ecclesiastical hierarchy.) The church given a shove down its current trajectory of post-Christian evolution by this author has lately elected as bishop a "blameless" gay man "of good behavior." Do these words fit together in a Biblically phrased sentence?:

Bishop Spong and his associates are themselves capable of speaking in a condemnatory tone of sexual behavior of which they disapprove: "We believe that whenever sexuality is lived out destructively, this church must witness to its negativity. We oppose all forms of promiscuous sex..." (A Statement of Koinonia, p. 448, Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong). Suppose a gay man who engages in "promiscuous sex." Bishop Spong thinks it displays "prejudiced irrationality" to associate homosexuality with promiscuity (p. 317, Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong), but surely there must be at least one. In condemning this gay man for his promiscuity, have Bishop Spong and his associates been guided by hatred and bigotry? Perhaps their motivation is rather to correct the straying and rescue the perishing. Might this also be the motivation of those who follow the Bible?

On the Cross

  • "Jesus died. It is inconceivable to say that God can die. God did not get crucified. Jesus did."
  • (Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong, p. 239.)



Who Died on the Cross? Lord of Glory
The First and the Last The Blood of God
Ransom for Many Scandal of the Cross
Theos Apathes Patripassianism
His Love Is Death Extinction?
Pierced Testator's Death
Common Consent Nestorius


Three Tiers

This author is much exercised about a 'three-tiered universe' which he believes he finds described in the Bible. He does not explain what he means by a 'three-tiered universe.' Perhaps he is envisioning a flat-earth system like that described in the apocryphal Book of Enoch, or in dissenting Christian authors such as Lactantius or Theophilus:

"Wherefore, also, the prophet mentioned that the creation of the heavens first of all took place, as a kind of roof, saying: “At the first God created the heavens” — that is, that by means of the “first” principle the heavens were made, as we have already shown. And by “earth” he means the ground and foundation, as by “the deep” he means the multitude of waters; and “darkness” he speaks of, on account of the heaven which God made covering the waters and the earth like a lid." (Theophilus to Autolycus, Book II, Chapter 13).

Theophilus envisions the world-system as a stock-pot covered by heaven as by a lid. I describe these authors as "dissenting" because it is more common to find Christian authors employing the terminology of Ptolemaic astronomy. Ptolemaic astronomy, much beloved by Thomas Aquinas, features a round earth. This complex system, beloved still by Martin Luther and John Calvin, features not 'three tiers' but a multiplicity of spheres.

This author believes he finds his 'three tiers' in Biblical passages such as Acts 1:9:

  • "Luke, writing in the Acts of the Apostles (1:1ff.), give us the only account of the event called the ascension. It is not an easy narrative to comprehend. The literal details of the ascension are nonsensical to modern ears: Jesus rising off the ground and disappearing into the sky like a space rocket in slow motion. This account assumed that we lived in a universe of three tiers in which heaven was the upper tier. No space-age man or woman can possibly believe this. Literally it did not happen! It could not happen! If a literal cosmic ascension is an important part of the Christian story, then the whole Christian enterprise is called into serious question, for such an anti-intellectual religion will not long survive in this technical, scientific age."
  • (This Hebrew Lord, John Shelby Spong, p. 90.)

This author seems to believe that the space program has produced new information as to the disposition and locale of near-by heavenly bodies, which is not the case at all. His 'three-tier' universe must be an astronomical construct, if it can be disconfirmed by astronomical ("space-age") observation. This reader cannot find a 'three-tier universe' in Luke's words:

"Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight." (Acts 1:9).

Certainly there is no difficulty in understanding Luke's account. No artist who wished to portray the scene has ever found difficulty in so doing. Perhaps the way to find Bishop Spong's 'three tiers' in this passage is to make Luke's "up" ['ep' of 'epairo'] absolute rather than relative to local observers, in this case the eye-witnesses observing the event. To Bishop Spong, who denies the physical resurrection, the bodily ascension of the Lord presents a contradiction to his ideas, but it is unclear what "space-age" observation ever led him to deny the Lord's physical rising from the tomb.

The Bible teaches, "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:24). Extension in space characterizes matter not spirit. But becoming incarnate was the Lord's own choice and cannot be understood to mean God can no longer be God. The Lord's nail-scarred body does demand some locale; but as tenants huddled upon a small patch of a vast domain, it is presumptuous of us to demand all parts of the whole to be either open to our inspection or available for our comprehension.

A common way atheists have of finding 'errors' in the Bible is to understand directional signals as if they related to an observer stationed outside the word system. The observer is visualized standing outside, looking upon the world as if he were holding a snow-globe in his hand. In fact modern speakers only rarely take this view, and ancient ones almost never; it is thus an anachronism. By this means common-place things modern speakers also say: 'the sun rose at 6:10 a.m.,' 'what a pretty sunset,' are taken as descriptions offered by the observer standing outside the world system, in which case they are false, because the sun does not rise at the same time in China as in Canada, nor is it the sun which is setting but the earth which is rotating. However, from the actually existent observer's frame of reference, the language is perfectly accurate and would not be spoken differently by an astronomer.

To find 'three tiers' in what Luke says, you have to reason like so: a newspaper reader in Sydney, Australia objects when he reads, 'The space-shuttle Challenger went up into the sky and then disintegrated.' 'Shouldn't that read, went down!' he thunders, reasoning that the direction in which the space-shuttle Challenger actually went approximates to a straight line from his sternum down between his feet. However, no actual reader of the Sydney papers would absolutize in this way his own frame of reference, nor would he demand the passage be rephrased from the perspective of our asphyxiated outside observer of the world system. When the newspaper reporter said that the space-shuttle went "up," he meant local observers were obliged to crane their necks back to keep it in sight. Was this not also what Luke meant when he said "up"? Without absolutizing Luke's "up," there are no 'three tiers' in view.

If the author assumes Luke is visualizing the Lord as hopping on the bus and going home, this is his assumption, not the assumption of the author who quotes Stephen repeating, "Heaven is My throne, and earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the LORD, or what is the place of My rest?" (Acts 7:49). The visible heavens are a special revelation of God's glory owing more to their beauty than to their locale: "And since the glory of his power and wisdom shine more brightly above, heaven is often called his palace. Yet in the first place, wherever you cast your eyes, there is no spot in the universe wherein you cannot discern at least some sparks of his glory. You cannot in one glance survey this most vast and beautiful system of the universe, in its wide expanse, without being completely overwhelmed by the boundless force of its brightness...this skillful ordering of the universe is for us a sort of mirror in which we can contemplate God, who is otherwise invisible." (John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book I, Chapter V, 1).

Sparrow's Fall

The Bible teaches that no sparrow falls without the Father:

"Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will." (Matthew 10:29).

This concept of God's personal and intimate involvement in this-wordly events causes Bishop Spong particular indignation. He perceives traditional religion to foster concepts of a "manipulative, invasive, this-world-oriented deity who governed the intimate details of people's lives from a position just beyond the sky." (Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong, p. 68). Though the thought is not commonly phrased in such offended language, the God of the Bible may aptly be called "invasive:"

"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there." (Psalm 139:7-8).

This author and his friends have moved beyond the "simple assumptions" of "premodern" religion, which "still spoke of God as a personal being, supernatural in power, who invaded history periodically in a variety of miraculous ways." (Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong, p. 85). His indignation rises to a high pitch when considering a child's death: "In a sermon in my second year at St. Joseph's, I called the God who would will the death of an innocent child nothing but a demon who ought to be destroyed." (Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong, p. 88). But the death of an innocent child must at least fall within the permissive will of the God who said, "Now see that I, even I, am He, and there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; nor is there any who can deliver from My hand." (Deuteronomy 32:39). While parents in the face of these circumstances may be unable to fathom God's will, denying His reality and power is a remedy that deepens the wound.

Bishop Spong, perceiving the traditional view as a security blanket, wants to rip off the bandage: "This was not a sentimental, childish, and dependent view of God as the heavenly parent who knew best, who intervened often and watched over each of us in guarding, protective ways. That God I was prepared to jettison." (Here I Stand, John Shelby Spong, p. 89).

The Virgin Mary

  • "A God who can be seen in the limp form of a convicted criminal dying alone on a cross at Calvary can surely also be seen in an illegitimate baby boy born through the aggressive and selfish act of a man sexually violating a teenage girl."
  • (Born of a Woman, John Shelby Spong, p. 185.)

Bishop Spong's speculations on this topic revive the old slanders of the Talmud. It is strange to reflect that Muslims hold Mary in more honor than today's Episcopalians:

"She said, 'How shall I have a son, when man hath never touched me? and I am not unchaste.' He said: 'So shall it be.  Thy Lord hath said: 'Easy is this with me;' and we will make him a sign to mankind, and a mercy from us.  For it is a thing decreed." (Koran, Sura 19:20-21)


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The Talmud refers to Jesus both under His own name and under pseudonyms such as 'Balaam.' Given state failure to understand the benefits of free speech, some of these references have been censored out of the Talmud, it being impossible to publish them in 'Christian' Europe; they are now found only in the footnotes. The Rabbis slandered Mary as an adulteress:

"And this they did to Ben Stada in Lydda, and they hung him on the eve of Passover. Ben Stada was Ben Padira. R. Hisda said: 'The husband was Stada, the paramour Pandira. But was nor the husband Pappos b. Judah? — His mother's name was Stada. But his mother was Miriam, a dresser of woman's hair? (megaddela neshayia): — As they say in Pumbaditha, This woman has turned away from her husband, (i.e., committed adultery).'" (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 67a).

"It was taught. R. Eliezer said to the Sages: But did not Ben Stada bring forth witchcraft from Egypt by means of scratches  [in the form of charms] upon his flesh? Was he then the son of Stada: surely he was the son of Pandira? — Said R. Hisda: The husband was Stada, the paramour was Pandira. But the husband was Pappos b. Judah? — His mother was Stada. But his mother was Miriam the hairdresser? — It is as we say in Pumbeditha: This one has been unfaithful to (lit., 'turned away from' — satath da) her husband." (Babylonian Talmud, Shabbath 104b)
"Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, [did the children of Israel slay with the sword].  A soothsayer? But he was a prophet! — R. Johanan said: At first he was a prophet, but subsequently a soothsayer.  R. Papa observed: This is what men say, 'She who was the descendant of princes and governors, played the harlot with carpenters.'" (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin, 106a).

Some readers fail to see Jesus in 'Ben Stada' (to be interpreted, 'son of an adulteress'?) and 'Balaam.' The point of a pseudonym, after all, is to maintain deniability. But some of these references are quite specific:

"A certain min [heretic]  said to R. Hanina: Hast thou heard how old Balaam was? — He replied: It is not actually stated, but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days,  [it follows that] he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.  He rejoined: Thou hast said correctly; I personally have seen Balaam's Chronicle, in which it is stated, 'Balaam the lame was thirty years old when Phinehas the Robber killed him.'" (Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 106b).

Who was the 'Balaam' who died at about thirty-three years old? Not the Old Testament figure of that name. 'Balaam' does seem to be a cut-out for Jesus of Nazareth. Bishop Spong understands, correctly, that these Talmudic passages intend to refer to Jesus and His mother. But why would any Christian take notice of such ill-intentioned slurs and calumnies?

Contemporary Episcopalians, evidently, can bring themselves to believe neither the gospel report of Mary's innocence and good character, nor can even muster the courage to believe the Talmud, which slanders her as an immoral person. Bishop Spong bowdlerizes the Talmud's report, inventing the fiction that Mary was raped, which is stated by neither Gospel nor Talmud.

Since Bishop Spong is willing to revive the Talmud's slurs against Mary's chastity, one wonders whether he would also be open to the rest of the Talmud's treatment of Jesus. There is needless controversy nowadays about whether there was a 'Jewish trial' of Jesus, given that the Talmud freely concedes that there was. The accusation the Talmud makes against Jesus is enticement, that Jesus violated the strictures of Deuteronomy 13:6, "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, who is to thee as thy soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods...", seeking to introduce strange worship:

"And a Master has said, 'Jesus the Nazarene practised magic and led Israel astray.'" (Sandhedrin 107b).

When did Jesus ever do that? When He said:

"That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father." (John 5:23).

That's either true, as Christians believe, or enticement, as the Talmud alleges. One of the weaknesses of the quest for the 'historical Jesus' is that one cannot make the case for condemnation, under the Mosaic law, of the pale, modest, and unremarkable figure intoning timeless truths that these seekers imagined. So these 19th century authors, who were mostly anti-semites anyway, were perfectly willing to accuse the Jews of condemning Jesus for no good reason. When that began to look like a problem, they simply denied that the Jewish authorities had ever reached any negative verdict. But if the gospels testify truly, and the Talmud testifies also reliably if in a hostile key, then the grounds for condemnation are self-evident. But given Bishop Spong's animus against Christianity, it's likely he only believes the Talmud when it debunks the gospels, not when it upholds them.

Is it distinctly strange to realize that the Muslim fanatics who brought down the World Trade Center believed more of traditional Christian doctrine,-- including Bible teaching on Mary,-- than does Bishop Spong. Churches unfortunately do not come with warning labels; if they did, the church that ordained this man ought to caution the public, 'This is not your grandmother's Episcopal Church.'



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